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Hayley Hobson:
So if you knew me, you'd know I'm really into biohacking. I have been biohacking my body for 25 years. Yes, 25 years, and I think I've got it down by now. In fact, I just went to 2 different doctors over the last few years who both said that I have the biological age of a 20 year old and drumroll.
I'm 55. One of the doctors did a full body scan a longevity scan, and he said that I was one of the healthiest patients he had ever seen, that there was literally nothing else he would recommend that I do, except for a little bit uptake on my iron. So for those of you who don't know your biological age is a measure of how old your cells are
and how well your body is functioning at a cellular level. It's different from your chronological age, which is the, which is the number of years you've been alive.
Because it takes into account many other factors, such as your lifestyle and your genetics. So your biological age is a better predictor of age, related diseases, and mortality than your chronological age, because it reflects the current state of your body now, needless to say, having the biological age of a 20 year old in your fifties is pretty darn good. But, it did not come without a lot of research, a lot of work and amazing biohacking products to support my longevity. So today I'm going to talk to you about one of my newest obsessions.
Hydrogen! Have you ever heard of hydrogen water? It's when your water is infused with the miracle molecule, hydrogen which enhances antioxidant activity and promotes hydration at a cellular level. And it has a ton of health benefits which I'm about to share, not to mention like the easy, peasy benefits like it'll help you sleep. Better energize you, your skin will glow more, and your body will stay more hydrated, more efficiently than ever before, and you know you may even release a few pounds of stubborn fat like when I started using it, I lost 6 pounds. Literally went down a whole pant size, and I didn't even know I had weight to lose and one of my besties lost 50 pounds and she bought her device.
So today I'm bringing on an expert who is going to share the science behind this hydrogen water device, the one I'm using at least, and how it's transforming the health and wellness industry. So I've got Carrie Drinkwine here, who is a prominent figure in the health and wellness field. She has a rich set of qualifications as a certified regenerative health practitioner, a natural path and a success and freedom coach.
And she owns and operates the Institute of Regenerative Health, where she trains and certifies regenerative health practitioners globally. And she's the owner of the wise wellness, holistic clinic. So Carrie's influence reaches wide and far. She is acknowledged globally as an esteemed success and freedom coach, and she stands out as one of the leading experts in regenerative health. So I love Carrie because she's known for her unique approach to address the terrain and repair the electric potential inside of your cells and awaken your body's wisdom to repair itself. And she believes that we must look at the physical.
The emotional and the energetic components to illness. So, are you as excited as I am. Welcome, Carrie.
Carrie Drinkwine: Thank you so much for having me.
Hayley Hobson: Oh, my gosh! It's a pleasure! Is there anything that I haven't shared about you that you would like to jump in and just shout out before we begin.
Carrie Drinkwine: I mean, I think you got it. I run this holistic clinic. I own an institute, and my really my passion is to transform this natural wellness, industry, and bring a lot of credibility to the body's ability to heal itself where so many people have taken, you know, so many natural health programs. But they don't get to the root cause. And so really, that's the Institute's mission is to share this deep, profound knowledge that we're going to talk about on this podcast today.
Of how the cell works and why these things work. And then really helping bring a credibility to the natural health and regenerative health industry. On top of that I also have a biological age of in my twenties, I think last time I checked it was several months ago, was 22, and I am in my forties, and I'm a mother of 5. So those are.
Hayley Hobson: Wow!
Carrie Drinkwine: No bumming.
Hayley Hobson: Yeah. So shout out to. But we're to what we are both doing to reverse our biological age congratulations on that. So before we jump into hydrogen, which I'm super passionate and excited about, and can't wait to actually learn as a student more from you. Would you share just a little bit of what goes on in your clinic like? Who are your clients, and what are some of the things that you're doing with them for them
Carrie Drinkwine: Yeah. So I'm actually retired now. But I have a load of practitioners that work here as well, that are all trained through the Institute. But our clientele is everyone and everything that's working through things like anxiety and depression to autoimmune, to mast, cell activation, to cancer, to Stage 4, to Parkinson's. We work with it all. And the reason that we're able to work with it all and not just niche into like we're hormone specialists, or we're thyroid specialists is because we have a deep wisdom on the body at the cellular level. And so I always say it doesn't matter the disease in the body, because that's all it is disease. It's a lack of ease and flow and coherence and communication in your cells.
Really, the approach is semi the same for each person we have to get into the terrain. The way that we work is really, we look at people's eyes, we look at their health questionnaires. So we do iritology here. And then we also do what's called bio energetic terrain analysis.And so we're able to take blood, urine and saliva and actually get a full terrain layout of the body like how well the mitochondria is working! How much kidney energy you have, how well your nutrient absorption is everything is laid out from your oxidative stress to your bones reserves, and it shows us on a chart whether you're in a good balance, a discrete imbalance or a disease state.
And so this gives us the markers where we know where we're starting, and then we start to work with the individual on opening up the elimination pathways, focusing on the kidneys and the liver, the bowels, the skin right, the lungs working on these elimination pathways first, and once you get those pathways open. That's when the actual detoxification begins. And in functional medicine and naturopathic medicine, a lot of times they put people on detoxes. But their elimination. Pathways aren't open, so people end up being flooded on their own waste and getting more sick.
So we work in that way of really addressing the root cause of imbalance and disease. We work with every condition and we have molecular hydrogen therapy through ventilation. Here we use hydrogen, rich water. We also have a quantum biofeedback frequency device that really scans what's going on in the body and in the field. We have lots of fun, little gadgets, red light therapy as well. But most of our work is educating people on how to transform their diet and transform their lifestyles, to get the body out of a flooded state. And then we start using, you know, some of the biohacks to advance and speed up our results.
Hayley Hobson: I mean, it sounds like a longevity clinic.
Carrie Drinkwine: Essentially. Yes, I mean, first, we're reversing chronic disease, of course, but then people end up just staying in this lifestyle because they feel so good, and the people start reverse aging like we are now just now partnering with some epigenetic testing that's actually showing us what organs are, what age of the 19 different organs. And then what is aging the individual the most? So is it their brain? Is it their immune system? Is it? You know, the bones being out of reserve. So it actually can like show you strategically what's happening, and then comes out with results that we use in our clinic to leverage, reversing your epigenetic age organ by organ.
Hayley Hobson: I mean, I feel like I could talk to you for like 10 hrs. I have like so many questions, just even coming out of your bio that, like I wasn't prepared to ask. But I want to ask a couple more before we specifically go to the topic that I wanted to talk about. So 1st of all, like, what got you into this? And what kind of, I guess qualifications or education did you have to go through to do what you're doing.
Carrie Drinkwine: Good question. So what got me into this was autoimmune disease. I was actually diagnosed with lupus, hashimoto, and fibromyalgia. When I was 30 I was also explained, diagnosed with unexplained infertility and chronic adrenal fatigue. And it was really quite shocking, because at that time I was in mainstream college for dietetics and holistic nutrition. And I realized I was following everything. I was being taught in college, and I was going to a pretty great school, and I was shocked. I was like, I'm exercising every day. I'm following all the things that I'm learning in college. How do I have autoimmune disease? I was practicing as a health coach and nutritionist at the time, and I completely stopped because I realized that if I'm sick. Who am I making sick with the information I'm being taught.
And so really, that was a very shattering moment for me. But I remember, after the devastation kind of settled in, and the shock of being diagnosed with these 3 different diseases. At the age of 30 I remember sitting in my car and thinking, if this can happen. I can unwind it. Something changed in my body, something changed in my energy field that shifted me into a dis-ease state. Whether it was stress or toxicity which I believe it was a combination. You know. I knew I could undo it, but I remember when I specifically looked at my doctor and said, How does this happen and she looked straight at me and said, Well, we don't know. It just does. But if you take these pills for the rest of your life, you'll live a relatively normal but shorter life.
Hayley Hobson: And what did she want you to take.
Carrie Drinkwine: So I was on immunosuppressants. I was on thyroid medication for my hypothyroid. I was on steroids, topical testosterone cream, because my testosterone was dangerously low where she wanted me to rub it on different areas of my body. So I didn't develop hair. In one place I had to rotate it around, and I had all these scripts, and I was like that. I said, I'm not going to do this, and she said, Well, then, you're going to be sick and you'll probably die. And I just remember saying to her, I'm going to figure this out, and I'm going to solve it naturally, and I didn't know what that looked like. So I worked with functional medicine@firstst Then I started, you know, kind of working with a hormone specialist that was supposed to be an endocrinologist, but more holistic hormone specialist.
I work with rheumatologists, endocrinologists, and then I went completely naturopathic, where naturopathy was the 1st place, I got a little better. And I didn't get all the way better, though the thing is is, I was taking about a thousand dollars a month at the time, and this is over 10 years ago of supplementation, and the supplements were making me feel better. They were helping my digest. They were reducing my inflammation, but that is not regenerative health that is supplemental natural health. So, for example, if you don't digest your food, you're depleted on hydrochloric acid and your pancreas isn't making enough enzymes. Well, instead of taking hydrochloric acid and enzymes, you need to repair the pancreas and repair the gastric glands. And that's what regenerative health does. And so I realized I had hit a plateau, and I burst into tears while I was packaging all my pills, because every Sunday I had to package hundreds of pills to go through my week. I just said to my husband, This is not it. This is not it. There has to be a way, and I ended up luckily, being, of course, divine orchestration meeting a regenerative detoxification specialist, and
I was in between desperate and skeptical when I met her and I just said, I'll do whatever you tell me. Just tell me what to do. And I started doing the work, and in 6 months time I had no detectable antibodies in my body. My thyroid was normal. For the 1st time in several years. I had returned my cycles back. All my inflammation was gone I released 30 pounds from my body and it was all me addressing nutrition and integrating herbalism. And I had this light bulb of why does everyone not know this, and so it was then.
Hayley Hobson: It's a conspiracy by the FDA. And the Food Administration.
Carrie Drinkwine: 100%, and so it was really at the time that I said, Okay, this is my mission. This is why I got disease. I believe that it's all purposeful. I say, turn our poison into medicine. And so I began researching everything I could non traditional. So I went and became a regenerative detoxification specialist. I took training in iridology and herbalism and naturopathy. And then I basically took all of these different certifications that I had acquired and worked with patients, one on one for last decade. And after I really like I was booked out 6, 7 months at a time. I couldn't get people off my waiting list. I was working 70 Hrs week. That was when the light bulb came on that this work is massively needed in the world, and I need to duplicate myself times a thousand or more. And so I opened the Institute to train and certify practitioners to do what I do.
Hayley Hobson: Wow, that 1st of all, that's really inspiring, really impressive congratulations. And it's funny because I have a very similar experience, and like exact, like different like. I didn't have the hashimoto's, but I had technically an autoimmune myself. I had digestive distress from the age I was 5 until I was in my forties. And I just finally decide I got super super sick. I'm going to tell you the very brief, long story short until the point like I have lost like 20 pounds from I mean, I'm a hundred, and like 18.
Carrie Drinkwine: Yeah, you're small.
Hayley Hobson: 5, 7, I'm very small. And so I was like literally nonexistent. And then I and I came home from the hospital with a bag of pharmaceuticals, and I looked at the doctor, and I said, No, I'm not doing it and I went on my own journey and my own path to heal my own body, and I considered, you know, amongst my clique of friends, or amongst my group or audience, to be in the, you know, woo, woo, woo space, and it's not. It's like this is functional medicine, and we're meant to use medicine. However, you want to call it plants or herbs or essential oils, or Pemf mats, or hydrated water like you're meant to use it to be healthy, not to implement when your body is at a state of disaster or fight or flight. So you know, I have my morning routine and my afternoon routine, and my evening routine, and my travel routine, and all the things.
And the funny thing is like I am at an optimal weight like this is what I weighed in high school 118 pounds right of 55 years old. I've had babies. I never get sick, I mean, maybe like I I think I had the the C word, you know, when it came out a year and a half in for like 2 days. And I travel like a like a rock star, literally like you and I talked about this before we started the podcast like, I am rarely home for more than like 5 to 7 days at a time. And you know I have a totally high, productive, high functioning lifestyle, where I feel amazing, both physically and mentally and emotionally, because of everything that I do for and to my body to upkeep it. And you know there was a phrase that I heard from somebody a couple of months ago, and I can't remember exactly, was, but in theory it was something like.
We work so hard our whole life that we neglect to take care of our health. We work so hard to make money that we forget to take care of our health, and then, later on, we spend all our money taking care of our health because we've neglected our health. So now no, I just spent all my money on my health, so I don't have to do it later.
Carrie Drinkwine: It's an upfront. It's preventative care.
Hayley Hobson: Yeah, exactly. Alright. Well, I wanna jump into today's topic that was really super inspired me. Really, really, really glad I got a chance to learn a little bit more about you, since I actually didn't know you really well. And hat was really inspiring. So today I wanted to talk about hydrogen, molecular hydrogen, and my story is, you know, my best friend knows me and knows all the things that I'm into, and she approached me back in. I think it was March. And shared with me this specific hydrogen device, and talk to me about molecular hydrogen and why I needed it. Blah blah, and I saw the price tag, and I was like, you're freaking, crazy, girl. And it took me about a few weeks to finally say yes, and then I started using it. And it's hard to say, because, like, you know, with these kinds of things, you don't necessarily like, drink the water, and in 5 min feel any different but what I did notice over the last. Let's say it's end of March, so let's say I got the bottle in April, April, May, June, July, August, September. You know, the last 6 months. What I have noticed and granted. Yes, I do other things, but what I noticed an uptick was is that I was sleeping better. I had more energy. My immune support was even higher than ever. I went on.
Really hard stints, like I just did the last 12 days with travel and trainings and felt, you know, complete like didn't feel like knocked out by the end of it. And I was probably in my one like 1 20, something in my weight which is still great. So I have 25 and pants, you know, but I suddenly like dropped like an entire pant size off my waist and it could be a combination of some other adaptogens I was using at the time, but I don't think it's an accident that I was also drinking. Let's just say a minimum of 3 bottles of this a day, sometimes up to 4 or 5. So I really want to talk about what molecular hydrogen does, because I live with my husband, and lots of people who I don't live with, who think that if you can't see the results, even though there's science, you know, data backed by science.
It's sort of like unfathomable or unbelievable. So I wanted to bring you on with. The. That's why I also asked you about your background with the rich history and education that you have to really share with us. Why hydrogen is hydrogen rich water specifically is so impactful for our health as humans.
Carrie Drinkwine: Well, one thing I want to share is one of my sayings is, may I never know what I'm preventing? And that is the one thing that people may not feel inside their body what's happening, but they are actually down, regulating and preventing things they don't know. We're actually in process and in evolution and 80% of disease actually begins in childhood. So you might think you're, I'm healthy. I'm healthy. I'm healthy. And then one day you have autoimmune that started in your childhood. So molecular hydrogen, I really believe, is the forefront and the future of regenerative medicine period.
And the reason is, I actually get like goosebumps every time we talk about the power of hydrogen, because it is the most abundant molecule in the world. 1st and foremost, and it's what created us. It's what created the sun. 99% of the sun is hydrogen. It's innate wisdom to our body. So it's this most abundant molecule in the world that can be made so easily, and it has this wisdom that nothing on earth has that no scientist has ever discovered before. And it says wisdom of literally, it's able to penetrate the cell, move inside the cell and start down regulating damage stress. But what's so great about it is, let's 1st start. We're not talking hydrogen like hydrogen and oxygen in your water. We're talking molecular hydrogen, which is H. 2 gas. There's a difference. So yes, it's still hydrogen. But we're creating molecular hydrogen through a process of electrolysis.
There's also multiple ways to get hydrogen into your body. There's hydrogen inhalation. There's hydrogen tabs. There's hydrogen water. There's all these different things. But I start every single patient on hydrogen water for a specific reason. Number one, the main precursor to disease, as I call it, is dehydration, because water is what is the electrical current inside the body? We are composed of what we say, 70% water. But if you actually look at each cell, we're actually 99% water and water creates like essentially a dipole on the cell, it basically creates a proton wire where the water surrounds what's called a hydrophilic surface, which is a water loving surface and water creates a charge across the cell. So we are more electrical beings than we are biochemical beings.
And so dehydration reduces our electrical charge. And that's when we start to have dis ease in the body is actually when our atp is low. So when the mitochondrial energy starts to get low, that's when the cell becomes weak and the cell becomes susceptible to antigens, pathogens, parasites, microbes, viruses, those sorts of things that you know, the people that get sick all the time. They have low mitochondrial atp and if we always had a high atp that cells. Integrity would remain extremely strong. And so actually, what this is being proven right now. And there's a gentleman that's gonna be winning a Nobel Peace Prize for this information. But he's proven that all disease starts with the mitochondria. And so the way hydrogen works, which is why I know we're onto something massive, and it's not even me. I'm not even a hydrogen scientist at all.
I'm just obsessed with this field is molecular Hydrogen is actually the main thing that is down, regulating oxidative stress and working directly on the mitochondria. So it penetrates the cell, and it up regulates a process called mitochondrial biogenesis, which is the birth of new mitochondria. And what that means is the birth of new cells with new energy. Right? So we really to to make it simple terms for you. We are working on charging the actual engine of the battery so, or the engine of the cell. Excuse me, and the next thing it does is it has this unique ability because of it's the smallest molecule in the world to penetrate every single cell. Now, all the beauty stuff you're on, ladies. It's not penetrating your skin, it's it's working surface level, making you look more plump temporarily, or whatever it's doing.
But hydrogen is actually the only molecule that does penetrate the skin truly goes all the way through, starts working on it. So when it penetrates any cell, whether it's a skin cell, an eye cell, hair cell, an ear cell, whatever it is, or in your body. Hydrogen comes in, penetrates the cell, starts up regulating the mitochondria, and it upregulates what's called the Nrf. 2 pathway. Now, if you Google this pathway, you will be blown away by the benefits. This is the primary detoxification pathway. It's the primary pathway that really, I say, awakens the intelligence of the cell. What it does is it down regulates damaging stress like oxidative stress. So we get oxidative stress from our cell phones, from our Wi-fi, from being on airplanes like both you and I live on. And we get oxidative stress from chemicals in the air, pharmaceutical drugs, anything, I say, what you eat, what you drink, what you breathe and what you put on your skin is, how oxidative damage comes in, and then, of course, the thoughts that you think.
But regardless. One thing I want to explain about the cell is that when your body is making atp we make atp all day every day, so every time you take a drink of something every time you eat food, your body is taking those nutrients, breaking them down to glucose pairing them with oxygen and making atp. That's the most basic way of explaining cellular respiration in that process of making that energy. We also produce what's called ros reactive oxygen species. Now, reactive oxygen species are both harmful and helpful. We get both. So I exercise every day. I'm going to produce beneficial, Ros. But I'm also going to produce harmful Ros. Why do you think you get sore that burn? There's lactic acid you're building. Some of the reactive oxygen species are harmful to the body. Well, specifically, hydrogen is able to only down, regulate the harmful and leave alone the good.
It's not a direct antioxidant, but it acts like a selective antioxidant and the other most brilliant thing I love about it is when it enters the body. It doesn't just travel through the body evenly. It actually looks for the elephant in the room per se. Where is there the most damage in the body, and it has its own wisdom to go there and start activating this pathway for the cellular repair to happen. So some people that say, Hey, I didn't notice anything. It's probably because there's a deeper issue that it's working on that they aren't aware of. And so when people have deeper, more chronic conditions. I notice. You know, they might feel more hydrated. They might feel like, maybe I'm sleeping or pooping better, right? Those basic things. But they don't notice any big Ahas. And that's because it's probably working on something neurological. It's probably working on something deep. And when it gets out of those deep issues, then it starts working on the more noticeable surface level issues.
And I would say, the last thing I want to share about hydrogen rich water, and why I start with hydrogen. Rich water is because it can penetrate the cell and then pull that water, that hydration in with it. So many people are drinking water all day every day, and they're chronically dehydrated. And that is for a couple of reasons. The number one reason is, a lot of times people are drinking the wrong water. We're drinking water that our body can't absorb. That has too many chemicals, or it's too alkaline which is a big craze. We can talk about this another time.
Hayley Hobson: I want to talk about that. If you could give some hints, because I know water sold all over the place like, what should people not buy.
Carrie Drinkwine: Don't buy alkaline water. Yeah? And.
Hayley Hobson: Alkaline or alkaline, light water.
Carrie Drinkwine: Well, everything is being marketed as alkaline people get the 8.4 ph. 9 ph. 11. Ph. Okay. Here's something to know about your body. You have to have your blood has to have a 7.4 ph. At all times. Not an 8, not a 9, not a 10, not an 11 our body. And if you look at the food spectrum, if you look at all food when people say, Oh, eat alkaline food, there's no such thing as alkaline food. There's food that is alkaline forming inside the body. All food is a 7 ph or lower. So when you're eating saying fruits and vegetables. You're going to be in those sixes and sevens. Ph, those foods leave behind an alkaline ash, meaning they're rich in minerals. They restore the body. It's like sodium, magnesium and calcium are left behind, whereas you eat foods that are highly acidic when we're getting into our, you know, heavier, like complex starches, and unfortunately dairies, and leave behind more of an acid ash. And you know, high proteins, high animal proteins. If you have too much, we'll leave behind phosphorus, nitrogen and sulfur.
And so we have to stop looking at the body as essentially macrochemistry. We're looking at protein. We need to be looking at the energetics of food and understanding that all food is under a 7. But it leaves behind specific things that the body needs or doesn't need. And so when it comes to when we take that Ph. We bring it into water. Why would all food be under a 7 ph. But our water should be above a 7 ph. It doesn't make any logical sense for the human body. The human body actually understands neutral, slightly acidic chemistry. And so when we are bringing water into the body. If that, if the water is way too alkaline, how is the body going to bring it into the cell? Because you can create acidosis in the body, and you can also create alkalosis in the body.
And you, you know we've heard of it's it's difficult to create alkalosis because of how many chemicals are in our our industry and all over. But if the water is too alkaline, it's the wrong Ph for the cell so the body will try to not absorb it. It also affects the peristalsis process of the bowels. So this is activated electrically in the body. We have something called the enteric nervous system that regulates the peristalsis of the bowels, and then also the churning in the stomach. The stomach needs to be at a 2.4 Ph or lower. So the moment we're drinking alkaline water, especially if it's 11 ph. In one glass, you've raised the ph of your stomach from a 2.4 to a 4.5 to a 6 or 7. So it's way, too, alkaline. We're diminishing our gut acid. We're diminishing the helpful bacteria, and now we can't digest our food.
And now we're nutrient. We're malabsorbed. We're nutrient, deficient, and what I see most commonly the patients that come in here, especially women that are. You know, I feel like in general, women are always trying to do more conscious things for their health than men, just because of the reality of our world, and women are a little bit more in tune. They're always the women that come in, and they have terrible gastric issues, brain fog, belly bloat they have chronic kidney infections utis. The 1st question I ask is, do you drink water? Oh, yeah. And it's always alkaline water every time they drink loads of alkaline water. And so they're creating their own gut disharmony. They're creating a too neutral to alkaline environment in a place that actually needs to be acid. So don't buy alkaline water. My suggestion is to buy living spring water and preferably spring water. That's a Ph of 7, or under so neutral or under is the goal.
Hayley Hobson: Wow. So what do you think about all of those like filtration systems that are like pumping alkaline water into the water? I mean, I guess it's just like don't even touch them with a 10 foot pole. But what about all the research that they have? Why are they confusing.
Carrie Drinkwine: Yeah, so there's actually Dr. Tyler Lebaron has a clinical research paper on this, and he actually did his Dr. Tyler Lebaron, if you don't know when you're listening to. This is one of the lead molecular hydrogen scientists in the world and so he's brilliant. But his thesis on this, when he was in college was the benefits of alkaline water, and they actually disproved him, and they were able to do this in a clinical study, because he's like, Oh, alkaline water has all these benefits? Well, what they learned was that okay, in the process of making molecular hydrogen and producing, you know, you're going through a high voltage electrolysis process. They were unable to essentially maintain the Ph of the water. So the Ph of the water was rising in the process of creating H 2 gas.
And so what they noticed when they actually separated out the study was that the control group that just had alkaline water versus the control group that had hydrogen gas or the hydrogen gas group was the only one with health benefits. So it just became this information that alkaline water was good for you, because in the process of trying to create molecular hydrogen they essentially made alkaline water. But the hydrogen is the true therapy. If that makes sense.
Hayley Hobson: No, I mean, that's yeah. That's interesting. I mean, I just think there's so much miseducation out there. It's kind of scary and confusing. It's so confusing. Yeah. And I mean, I get it because I'm like, in the essential oil business, too. And there's so much information out there that's actually not true or actually dangerous. That's going out to people. So you really got to trust your sources. So thank you for being here and pouring into me and my community So yeah, so thank you for the education on hydrogen. I want to jump into you've shared with me how it's beneficial to your patients and why you're using it. I also want to talk about the different devices. Because it's funny. I've been. You know, like, here's here's my stance, Carrie like if I like something and I love it and I'm using it. I'm going to get an affiliate link for everything that I have, because in my world. It's like, if you're going to recommend something, why not get paid, you know, a little stipend.
So I have an affiliate link for this hydrogen device I'm holding in my hands, and when I share with people I often get responses like, well, I have this one, or I bought this one on Amazon, and I've looked some of them up, and it's like there's such a huge discrepancy in price like you can get one for $89 or $200, and this device is no joke. I mean, it's a $500 device in us currency. And so I even myself, like I had a little bit of an issue trying to like, quote, unquote, justify the purchase in the beginning, only because I didn't understand the value. And then, once I understood the value. It was a no brainer for me, and now that I'm using it like I would never go back to anything else. In fact. I hate to say this, but I feel like some of the stuff that you know some of the other devices people have bought are probably sorry, like such garbage. You might even want to throw them out based on what you're hearing, that Carrie's saying but let's talk about the different, the different devices, and how you decided to align yourself with the cell power device by Luma Byte, because I know that it's different from other devices in the market, and I want to hear it from you, with your with your high sense of education.
Carrie Drinkwine: Yeah. So I really pride myself on. You know, I'm a i'm a researcher, and I always align with the best quality in whatever market I'm in, whether it's nutrition, whether it's hydrogen right? I've got to research the best, and if something better comes out I'll change right.
Carrie Drinkwine: But as of right. Now, I have chosen cell power by lumi vitae for a reason. And the main reason is number one.
Carrie Drinkwine: I actually how I came into this actually was really working with the Creator, Nuno Nina, who is the creator of this device, who is a clinician? Primarily so. He owns a clinic in Lisbon, in Portugal, and he's seen over 70,000 patients over the last several decades, and his primary whole life goal is to help people have a better human experience and help them reverse illness.
Carrie Drinkwine: He's a highly gifted genius, of course, and he has this unique ability to to see energy inside the human body and how it works. And he, when I went to his clinic, I actually originally went to his clinic to train and purchase some of the devices I have in my clinic that he has created
Carrie Drinkwine: so some of the frequency devices and things like that. So I had a high credibility in his knowledge, and the fact that he'd been working for years in this industry. So then, when I started diving into hydrogen, I had actually worked with hydrogen tablets years ago in my clinic, and I saw no difference, nothing. And I like literally nobody saw any benefits. So I stopped using them.
Carrie Drinkwine: I obviously wasn't using a good brand or a good source, but it was very confusing, because if you look up molecular hydrogen, the clinical research is there, the validated clinical studies. There's over 2,000 clinical studies, showing the profound benefits of molecular hydrogen, from anti autoimmune to anti-cancer, to reversing neurological disease, inflammation, and beyond. So I was like, well, why am I not seeing this in my patients?
Carrie Drinkwine: And so the reason I chose cell power was because it was created by a clinician for his patients? Number one. That was the primary reason. So all what's happening right now is
Carrie Drinkwine: in the market. Hydrogen is becoming all of the buzz because of the clinical research that's coming out. And so people know it's the next health thing. So what happens is, somebody decides they're going to capitalize on this hydrogen buzz, and we're going to have some cheap Chinese factory, make us a device for $20 and sell it for 80, or, you know, make it for 5, and sell it for 100 whatever. And so what you're seeing is people that are having a factory that has no connection to their product produce a product, and then mass sell it, and these are not. These are not clinical.
Carrie Drinkwine: These are not safe. And there's multiple reasons. So the the very 1st and primary reason was because it was made by a clinician, and he was giving his bottle to his own patients. So I had a 1st validated trust in the fact that. Okay, you drink out of this. I'm watching you drink out of it. Your whole team drinks out of it, and all of your patients drink out of this so obviously, you really believed in this product. Then we went a second layer deep, and I wanted to know everything about why his bottle was different than the others because of the price.
Carrie Drinkwine: and it is different in every single way. So we'll go to the basics when you are producing hydrogen. You need to have electrodes in order to go through a process of electrolysis. This is creating an electrical charge to create a chemical change in the water.
Carrie Drinkwine: and that process is essentially what we like to call it is like, quote unquote, dirty process, because it's unpredictable. We can produce hydrogen. We can also produce chlorine gas. And so this is very, very important that you have the proper membranes and the proper electrodes in place, and for a couple of reasons. One. If you have cheap electrodes, you're at a high risk for leaching heavy metals into the water. So the electrodes in the cell power bottle are titanium, and they're coated in platinum. So the longevity of these electrodes, the safety of electrodes is like no other on the market.
Carrie Drinkwine: The second thing that is the biggest deal, I think in the hydrogen bottles is the proton exchange membrane, and this is called the pem membrane. This membrane is what separates all that junk in the base that's being made through electrolysis. So we're making H 2 gas. We're making, maybe chlorine gas and some other byproducts
Carrie Drinkwine: instead of letting all that through. It's really what it says. It's a proton exchange membrane. It's only letting the protons through which is the hydrogen ions.
Carrie Drinkwine: So that highly specialized membrane has to be strong membrane. It has to be like a well created membrane and the fabric durability, so that it doesn't disintegrate and fall apart. But it's only letting hydrogen through.
Carrie Drinkwine: The other thing is in the bottom, in the base. There's this dual airway system that actually releases any of the unwanted byproducts out the bottom. So there's a discharge system as well. So now I know that in the center, after this whole cool electrolysis process is happening inside. Here, all I have is pure molecular hydrogen, rich water.
Carrie Drinkwine: and then from there, then the encasing. What's the water in? Is it in endocrine, disrupting plastic? Is it in cheap? Well, it's in Triton, which is the highest medical grade plastic. That's not leach any Bpas. It's a very high quality, high, durable
Carrie Drinkwine: material. That's not only not going to break, but it can withstand an incredible heat both this triton and the membrane. So our membrane is only we are the only people in the world with our membrane. It's made just for cell power. It is tested to be the strongest membrane in the world.
Carrie Drinkwine: and previously the strongest membrane was Dupont, and at 60°C it would disintegrate.
Carrie Drinkwine: and I've seen people saying, Oh, I have little floating pieces of my membrane from my other bottles. I'll leave the names out. And so that means that debris is coming into their water because the membrane has been compromised.
Carrie Drinkwine: and they also have cheap plastic in those bottles. So they they're drinking hydrogen, but they're drinking hydrogen and byproducts. They might be drinking hydrogen, chlorine gas and heavy metals. They might be drinking hydrogen, chlorine gas and endocrine disruptors. Right? So these are. This is a really big difference just from the bottom to the center that I've explained.
Carrie Drinkwine: And then in the top, we also have frequencies in the lid, and that's really just nuno creating. These are extra bonus. The real medicine is the hydrogen right.
Carrie Drinkwine: but the frequencies in the lid are very unique, and that's Nuno Anina, the Creator, taking his passion for hydrogen and frequency and merging them.
Carrie Drinkwine: And so the lid
Carrie Drinkwine: frequencies one is energy to obviously increase energy in the body. Your body's in a more oxidative state in the morning, so we recommend the energy cycle in the morning or early afternoon.
Carrie Drinkwine: We have recovery, which is to reduce oxidative stress to include, to really increase the reduction.
Carrie Drinkwine: And so we encourage a reduction. Maybe after a heavy workout in the evening or late afternoon, when you should be in those later states of the day when you shouldn't be in oxidation, you should be in reduction, because we're always trying to reduce damage. And then the 3rd frequency is called lumi vitae, which is light of life. And it's a very specific bandwidth. That frequency. So it sometimes is explained as mimicking the sun. But it's not. It's actually
Carrie Drinkwine: specifically a specific wavelength that's being mimicked from the solar spectrum that really is. It alters the properties to balance the water and the membrane potential. So it's a very unique genius of Nunoes to have these 3 frequencies light of life, recovery and energy. And I use the frequencies 50% of the time and 50% of the time. I just run the hydrogen.
Carrie Drinkwine: And then the last incredible feature of this bottle is the base has the magnetic field of the earth, so these meticulously crafted magnets that are mimicking the magnetic field of the earth to really create the universe in the bottle, like the sun, the magnetic field of the earth, and then the most vital force thing ever which is living water.
Hayley Hobson: That's amazing. You are a literally wealth of knowledge. I knew I was excited to talk to you before I was excited before we went going. But now I'm just like this is one of the best interviews I've ever actually given. So thank you so much, you guys. Oh, my gosh! So anyway, this hydrogen device just kind of sum it up. Besides the youthful glow and resilience in your skin and your body. We're talking anti-aging. We're talking. We're talking reducing oxidative stress. We're talking anti-inflammatory antioptopic effects. We're talking DNA damage reduction. We're talking potent anti-aging agents, increasing NAD level maintenance which is obviously an anti-aging molecule that we all know about, I think.
And very effective in protecting your skills and also the synergy behind the device itself and the structure of the device itself. So thank you. Thank you so much, Carrie, for sharing your knowledge. I love how you broke down like honestly complicated science, and such an easy to understand way, I'm going to go back and literally listen to this like 10 more times. So before you guys, before we wrap up today I want to drop the link to the device. I made it super simple for you guys. It's hayleyhobson.com/water HAYLEY is Hayley, HAYLEYHOBSON haleyhobson.com forward slash water, super simple reminder the most effective hydrogen water device on the market is this one? Do not if you, if it's like not a yes today. And you want to increase your bank account first.st Don't buy the other ones on the market.
Wait until you're ready. It's definitely an investment, and it's an investment in your health and your anti-aging that will pay dividends for years to come, and my philosophy is invest in it. One. It's a 1 time product, this device. Let's just hypothetically say it only lasted for 5 years, and it could last a lifetime. It's $100 a year. It's like $8 a month, so you can do that at hayleyhobson.com/water. If you're tuning in right now, or if you're scrolling through Instagram or Facebook, just go to my accounts at Haley Hobson, and just write Lumi LUMI. Lumi on any post, and I'll send you back a DM. With the link right away, all right, and if you love today's conversation, you know, hop on over and follow Carrie on her Instagram account as well. I had it pulled up a second ago, Carrie, what is it.
Carrie Drinkwine: It's just @carriedrinkwine.
Hayley Hobson: Okay at Carrie Drinkwine, and please share this episode with somebody you love. The gift of health is meant to be shared, and until next time, my friends. Thank you, Carrie, and we will see you online.
Carrie Drinkwine: Thank you so much. Thanks for having me.